Does giving wife right to divorce count as talaq?
Waswasa-OCD · Ahle Hadith / Salafi
Question
Situation 1. one day I told her , I give you right you give the 4th one as I give you in past 3 my exact statement in Bangla was "āϤā§āĻŽāĻŋ āϝā§āĻšā§āϤ⧠āĻāĻŽāĻžāϰ āϏāĻžāĻĨā§ āĻĨāĻžāĻāϤ⧠āĻāĻžāĻ āύāĻž āϤāĻžāĻšāϞ⧠āϤā§āĻŽāĻžāĻā§ āĻ āϧāĻŋāĻāĻžāϰ āĻĻāĻŋāϞāĻžāĻŽ āĻāϤā§āϰā§āĻĨ āĻāĻž āϤā§āĻŽāĻŋ āĻĻāĻžāĻ, āϝā§āĻšā§āϤ⧠āĻāĻā§ āĻāĻŽāĻŋ ā§Š āϤāĻžāϞāĻžāĻ āĻŦāϞā§āĻāĻŋ āϤā§āĻŽāĻŋāĻ āϤ⧠āĻŦāϞ⧠āϏāĻŦāϏāĻŽāϝāĻŧ āϤ⧠āϤā§āĻŽāĻŋ āĻĻāĻžāĻ ā§Ē āύāĻŽā§āĻŦāϰ āĻāĻž āĨ¤ " (this is what I said as far I remember I don't exactly recall the more accurate statement (as i reufer this stament to past which we already took fatwa it's bidi doesn't counted still I said the line in anger does this statement counted as talaq or activate the old bidi
Also no she didn't use the tafweez power
please give proper answer
Answer
Answer (according to the Salafi / Ahl-e-Hadith methodology):
Your statement does not constitute a divorce, nor does it activate or revive the previous three divorces that were already ruled as bidâi (innovated) and invalid by a reliable Salafi mufti. Your marriage remains valid.
Detailed Explanation
1. The nature of your statement
You said (in Bangla):
âāϤā§āĻŽāĻŋ āϝā§āĻšā§āϤ⧠āĻāĻŽāĻžāϰ āϏāĻžāĻĨā§ āĻĨāĻžāĻāϤ⧠āĻāĻžāĻ āύāĻž āϤāĻžāĻšāϞ⧠āϤā§āĻŽāĻžāĻā§ āĻ āϧāĻŋāĻāĻžāϰ āĻĻāĻŋāϞāĻžāĻŽ āĻāϤā§āϰā§āĻĨ āĻāĻž āϤā§āĻŽāĻŋ āĻĻāĻžāĻ, āϝā§āĻšā§āϤ⧠āĻāĻā§ āĻāĻŽāĻŋ ā§Š āϤāĻžāϞāĻžāĻ āĻŦāϞā§āĻāĻŋ āϤā§āĻŽāĻŋāĻ āϤ⧠āĻŦāϞ⧠āϏāĻŦāϏāĻŽāϝāĻŧ āϤ⧠āϤā§āĻŽāĻŋ āĻĻāĻžāĻ ā§Ē āύāĻŽā§āĻŦāϰ āĻāĻžāĨ¤â
Translation: âSince you do not want to stay with me, I give you the right â you give the fourth one. Since I previously said three divorces, you always say that you give the fourth one.â
- You did not pronounce a divorce yourself. You merely gave her the right (tafwÄĢá¸) to divorce you.
- She did not use that right (as you confirmed). A tafwÄĢḠdivorce only takes effect when the wife actually utters the divorce with the intention of divorcing. Since she did not act upon your offer, no divorce occurred.
2. The previous three divorces are already ruled invalid
The Salafi mufti gave a fatwa that those three divorces were bidâi (innovated, irregular) and do not count. This ruling is based on the correct view of the majority of the Salaf and the four imams when the divorce is pronounced in a single sitting, in anger, or without proper procedure â particularly when there is no following of the Sunnah.
- Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (may Allah have mercy on him) stated: âThe bidâi divorce is not valid, whether it is three in one word or three in separate words in one sitting.â (MajmÅĢâ al-FatÄwÄ, 33/11)
- Shaykh Ibn BÄz and Shaykh Ibn âUthaymÄĢn also ruled that three divorces given at once count as one rajâÄĢ divorce only if the husband intended one, but if they were pronounced in a state of anger without clear intention, they may be invalid altogether. In your case, a specific fatwa was given that they are invalid.
Therefore, those three divorces are as if they never happened. Your marriage was valid after that fatwa, and you cannot âreviveâ them by referring to them in a later statement.
3. Referring to past divorces in anger does not revive them
Your statement âsince I previously said three divorcesâĻâ is a reference to the past, not a new pronouncement. It does not reactivate those invalid divorces. The principle in Islamic jurisprudence is:
âWhat is null and void cannot be revived except by a new, valid cause.â
(See al-MughnÄĢ by Ibn QudÄmah)
4. The issue of anger
Anger does not automatically nullify a divorce. However, for a divorce to be valid, the husband must be sane and conscious of what he is saying. If the anger reached a level where he did not know what he was saying (e.g., extreme rage), the divorce does not count. But even if we assume your anger was controllable, you did not utter a divorce â you gave a right. So anger is irrelevant here.
5. Advice regarding OCD (waswasa)
You mentioned âOCDâ in the title. This is a clear case of waswasa (whispers from ShayášÄn). The Prophet īˇē said: âAllah has forgiven my ummah for what whispers to them in their hearts, as long as they do not act upon it or speak of it.â (BukhÄrÄĢ and Muslim)
Do not keep revisiting this issue. The marriage is valid. You have already obtained a clear fatwa from a Salafi mufti. Repeated questioning and doubt only harm your relationship and increase your psychological burden. Shaykh al-AlbÄnÄĢ (may Allah have mercy on him) advised people with waswasa to ignore the whispers and treat them as if they never happened.
Final Ruling
- Your statement does not count as a divorce.
- It does not revive the previous three divorces.
- Your marriage is valid and intact.
- No action (like separation or reconciliation) is required.
And Allah knows best.